"More Information" about particularization
Some of you may have seen already the announcement below in a newspaper or church bulletin. This post is the "more information" about the particularization service.The service will be held in Unity Christian's gymnasium, which is handicap accessible. To map your route to the school, [click here]. Out of town visitors, please [contact] for accommodations if you need them!
What you will be witnessing is called a "particularization." This is the transition of the congregation from a mission church to a particular church, or in other words from a church plant to an established congregation. Why be so "particular" about language? Because Harvest by itself is not "a church." Christ's visible church is one name given to the whole of many congregations spread across the earth. An individual congregation is either a "mission church" or a "particular church," but it is not by itself fully "a church."
This may sound confusing, but this reality--that what is happening on June 1st is a smaller, local component of Christ's larger, worldwide work--makes the coming service "particularly" exciting! God is real, His gospel is real, and that means that what is happening is not ultimately a function of what we are doing, but a function of what He has done.
We are also looking forward "particularly" to sitting under the preaching ministry of Dr. D. Ralph Davis in worship this Lord's Day morning and again in the afternoon service of the Presbytery. To get a taste in advance, you might listen to some of his preaching [online] or borrow or purchase on of his [books] (the Scripture expositions are "particularly" helpful).
Harvest Community is delighted to be a congregation of the Presbyterian Church in America, a denomination that is growing through God's blessing upon gospel faithfulness, rather than the successes of human cleverness. The PCA's motto is to be "Faithful to the Scriptures, true to the Reformed faith, and obedient to the Great Commission." The result is that when we do grow, the glory is all God's and not ours. This will be the theme of the worship service on the afternoon of the first. We hope to see you there!
COME WITNESS AND CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF A CHURCH on Sunday, June 1st, at 4:30p.m., on the campus of Unity Christian High School, in Orange City, IA. There, the Iowa Presbytery of the Presbyterian Church in America will convene a special worship service for the Particularization of Harvest Community Church and the installation of its elders. Dr. Ralph Davis will be preaching. After praising God with His saints for His merciful work, the newborn congregation invites you to celebrate that work at a supper reception in the cafeteria at 6p.m. For more information, call 712.395.0983 or visit http://harvestoc.net/.
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Session to Hear Professions of Faith: if we have received a letter of transfer for you, the next step is for us to hear your testimony of what God has done for you in Christ and of your faith in Jesus. Session representatives plan to come around next week and do this. If you have requested a letter, or plan to, and you are not contacted for interview some time next week, please let me know so that you do not get overlooked.A Film Recommendation: Gary Vander Hart commends the film
Expelled, which he has seen, in the following note that he has supplied for our consideration.
Dear friends,
The movie "Expelled, No Intelligence Allowed", narrated by Ben Stein, will be shown from May 12-15 (Mon -Thurs) in Sioux Center (in the Mall), at 4:40 and at 7:35.
Ben Stein was inspired to make this film because some of America's best scientists are being expelled from their colleges, universities, research activities, and science journal editorships, simple because they mentioned Intelligent Design as a possible explanation for life, and questioned evolution as a perfect explanation. One of the persons interviewed is Guillermo Gonzalez, prof. of astronomy in the University in Iowa City who in the last few months was not given tenure and had to leave (he'll teach in Grove City College in Pa next year) for no other reason than his involvement in the book and DVD called the "Privileged Planet", in which he lays out how unique the earth is amongst the milky way and the other planets, showing it to be intelligently designed for life. Another 6 or so scientists who were expelled are also interviewed. At various points he interviews hard-core evolutionists, who, not knowing Ben Stein's agenda, spill out their real feelings. It turns out that none of them have good scientific reasons for their evolutionary views, but instead they are vigorously against God. This is especially evident in the interview in London with Dawkins, author of "The God Delusion", in which he calls the God of the Bible horrible names, and when he has to explain the first life on earth, appeals to some "intellegent sources" outside our solar system who planted seeds of life here. (the theory of panspermia). Ironically Dawkins vigorously opposes "Intelligent Design". Another dramatic point occurs in Germany in an interview with the museum guide in the hospital where Hitler killed thousands of invalids and imbeciles. The guide basically argues that Hitler did this in the name of Darwin and his desire to speed up "the survival of the fittest." He also shows similar thinking in the USA in the 20's and 30's with the eugenics movement, and with Margaret Sanger and her Planned Barrenhood. (to slow down the "breeding of blacks")
I saw it last night, and I strongly recommend that everyone go to see it. Then pray for America, which has less freedom in this regard than Russia, where I could openly criticize evolution and show 6 day creation videos (translated into Russian) in the Moscow public schools where I taught in the early 1990's. Ben Stein interviews a scientist from Poland who says that there is more freedom in Poland today than in the USA in this regard. Gary Vander Hart
Now follows reviews: from American Vision, Christianity Today, Focus on the Family:
From Christianity Today Magazine:
Ben Stein got his start as a lawyer and a speechwriter for Presidents Nixon and Ford, and in more recent years he has written books, offered investment advice, and hosted both a game show (Win Ben Stein's Money) and a reality TV show (America's Most Smartest Model). But he is probably still best known for playing the boring high-school economics teacher who took attendance in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Now Stein is tackling education of a different kind, as the star of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, a documentary about the Intelligent Design movement—and the academic establishment's efforts to stifle the debate over the limitations of evolutionary theory that many ID advocates have been calling for.
The film opened in limited release April 18.
How did you get involved in this movie?
Ben Stein: Walt Ruloff [co-writer and co-producer of the film] contacted me and showed me a bunch of very interesting slides and moving pictures about the cell. We talked a lot about the historical effects of Darwinism and social Darwinism, and he asked me if I would like to host a discussion about where Darwinism had gaps and where there were some unanswered questions about evolution. He said I could have a little bit of input into the storyline. I told him I was especially horrified by what Darwinism's social and historical impact had been on Jews, and that that would motivate me to try to get some involvement in the project.
How familiar were you with the subject of Intelligent Design prior to this?
Stein: Not at all. I'm still not that familiar with it. I'm more familiar with it than most people, but nowhere near as familiar with it as a genuine expert in the subject. I don't pretend to be a scientist. I'm the person who moderates the discussion between and among the scientists.
Did you do a lot of reading to prep for the role?
Stein: Some. I read one book cover to cover, From Darwin to Hitler, and that was a very interesting book—one of these rare books I wish had been even longer. It's about how Darwin's theory—supposedly concocted by this mild-mannered saintly man, with a flowing white beard like Santa Claus—led to the murder of millions of innocent people.
Inevitably, this subject gets into the overlap between science and religion. Do you have any sort of religious inclination yourself?
Stein: I'm Jewish, and I have always believed that there is a God who was the prime mover in the universe, so it's not hard for me to think of him as the Intelligent Designer.
Stein says his research has bolstered his faith
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Has your research into the intelligent design debate affected your beliefs?
Stein: Yes, it has made my belief in that much stronger. It has pointed out something which haunted me ever since I learned about Darwinism, which is, Where did it all start? How did life start? Darwinism has nothing to say about that—nothing useful, anyway—but I think Intelligent Design has a great deal to say about it.
[ID advocate] Phillip Johnson has said that as a scientific theory, Intelligent Design doesn't necessarily lead to God. It could lead to an alien, or something like that.
Stein: That's not my view. Because if there are people from another planet, where did they come from?
Right. My understanding is that ID advocates have tried to remain officially agnostic on that sort of question --
Stein: Well, they can be as officially agnostic as they want. I think the Designer is God.
Your film is very up front about the God aspect.
Stein: I think that's perfectly sensible, because I feel very strongly that there is a God and he's the guy who did it.
Do you feel that by putting God so front-and-center, you are blowing the ID scientists' cover?
Stein: No, because I'm not speaking for them, I'm just speaking for me. And for me, it's pretty clear-cut that until we learn some better explanation for how life began, there is a God who always existed and created the heavens and the earth. And until somebody gives me a better explanation, I'll go for it.
And it doesn't scare me at all when scientists say, "Oh, but that can't be proved," because neither can any of the Darwinian hypotheses about how life began be proved. Anyway, I couldn't give a [profanity] whether a person calls himself a scientist. It doesn't earn any extra respect from me, because it's not as if science has covered itself with glory, morally, in my time. Scientists were the people in Germany telling Hitler that it was a good idea to kill all the Jews. Scientists were telling Stalin it was a good idea to wipe out the middle-class peasants. Scientists were telling Mao Tse-Tung it was fine to kill 50 million people in order to further the revolution.
What if someone said evolution is true and it doesn't matter how it has been used?
Stein: But I don't believe it is true. And aside from modification within species, I don't think anyone has ever been able to prove one species that evolved by Darwinian means. It's incomprehensible to me how Darwinism could explain something as complex as the organic cell, and it's incomprehensible to me how Darwinism could explain how life began. And they don't even try.
As for me, I'm choosing a theory [ID] that seems to fit the evidence, as well as my intuitive feeling of awe in the face of God. If Darwinists can present me with evidence about how the world began and how the cell got so complex, I'll be glad to re-examine my beliefs.
Some people—including some Christians who accept Darwinian science—say that ID is just a new version of the "God of the gaps" theory.
Stein: You can call God the "God of the gaps," but if the God of the gaps is the God who created the heavens and the earth, and created all the living things within that, then that's an awfully big God.
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| Expelled: The Movie by Joel McDurmon 04/22/08 There is a Proverb: “He who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him” (Prov. 18:17). I could think of little more fitting after seeing the great new film by Ben Stein, Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. The atheists and the hardcore evolutionists have had their fun: they have published their books, DVDs, conference speeches, more books, all bashing religion, God, Jesus, and this powerful wave in science called “intelligent design.” They have bad-mouthed, name-called, cursed, sued, and legislated against God and against His followers. They have stated their case first, and gained a hearing. Well, now Expelled is the “other man” of the Proverb, and it gives the Darwinist enterprise the critical examination it deserves. I will avoid writing much about the particular scenes and highlights of the movie. I highly recommend the movie, and don’t want to spoil the least bit of it for you. I do want to mention a few points about it, as well as a few related comments. One of the best points about the movie is that it has the atheist and evolutionist communities fuming, and I mean raging madly. Atheist Richard Dawkins’ website has been rolling with anti-Expelled articles for several days—before the movie even came out—the anger is visible in all corners of the site. There’s an old saying that when you throw a stone into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit. Well, this time the whole pack is howling in unison. Having seen the movie I can understand why Dawkins is so frothing mad over it: he comes across as a stuttering buffoon when interviewed. He’s not used to this. He’s used to a well-scripted scene with canned arguments, pocketed one-liners, favorable lights, cameras, and makeup—lots of rhetorical makeup. The same is true for the entirety of the anti-intelligence squad, many of whom get their guard-down interviews in the movie. You get to see Daniel Dennett, Richard Dawkins, PZ Meyers, Eugenie Scott, Michael Ruse—all atheists or agnostics, all hostile to traditional religious faith, and all Darwinian evolutionists—each given their turn to explain their position, and explain how they view intelligent design. To a person, they all ridicule intelligent design, but this, oddly enough, is a blessing. Each of them is interviewed in what he felt, apparently, was a “safe-zone” or at least a neutral zone where he could let his guard down and really hammer the opposition. The result is an exposé of their real feelings and true condescending attitudes toward competition. In one example Ben Stein interviews atheist Richard Dawkins. Ben asks whether Dawkins thinks God is a terrible dictator in the sky, or some similar phrase. Dawkins delights himself, “Oh I wrote something much better than that,” and he proceeds to read his now infamous lines from his book The God Delusion, where he calls the biblical God offensive names for several lines of text, such as “bloodthirsty,” “genocidal,” etc. When he is done, he looks up at Ben with the relish of a child who has just crayoned his stick-art work and desiring smiling approval from a parental figure. He acts that proud of that work. In the end, despite all his talk, Dawkins cannot answer the most fundamental question about which he has been preaching—deriding Christians—for over thirty years. He literally stutters when pressed with the question, “How did life begin?” That alone is worth the price of the ticket. And when he begins to talk about alien life-forms, it only sweetens the deal. Those who watched the film in the same theater when I did will have to forgive my out-loud laughter throughout the interviews. Sneaky, Sneaky By now many readers on the web are aware that Dawkins and his American evolutionist counterpart, “PZ” Meyers, tried to crash the premier of Expelled in Minneapolis, MN last month. I can only imagine that the producer, Mike Mathis, held this event when and where they did because the American Atheists Conference 2008 was held there at the same time. They were hoping for some headline grabbing stunt from the inevitably reactionary godless. Dawkins and Meyers lined up but were halted by security after Mathis noticed Meyer’s name on the ticket list. He was escorted out, and Dawkins was left holding the popcorn. Dawkins, however, reports that Mathis was so stupid as not to notice him—the most high-profile atheist in the world—and let him pass, and also so deceitful as to give false reasons for evicting Meyers. Our informative atheist gives all kinds of reasons why we should regard Mathis as doltish and dishonest, and yet never mentions the fact that he himself snuck-in by using his unfamiliar “real” name “Clinton” when signing in. So much for up-front honesty. Left a bit of the story out there, Clinton. Great Animations Having been sheared and left naked before the world, Dawkins and the rest of the anti-intelligence flock are bleating unendingly, trying to impugn the movie in every way possible. But perusing their comments just a bit you’ll find that they critique everything except the real argument. They don’t like how the movie was made, they call it amateurish, shoddy, second-rate; they make fun of some of the editing and the humor; and they can hardly write a paragraph without the label “creationist.” But when all is done, precious little is said of the actual point of the movie—that anyone who has an inkling of respect for intelligent design is immediately persecuted and marginalized in academia, journalism, and education. So Dawkins’ troop is content to caricature and strain over tiny issues, certainly hoping to distract readers from the real issue under consideration. They have accused the film makers of stealing an animation of the cell from a previous effort done for Harvard University. They provide not a shred of hard evidence to back up the claim. Some of the ID spokesmen have already rebutted the idea.1 This story may yet develop, but the animation was clearly given its own independent citation in the movies credits, so I’m not sure why the evolutionists are pursuing the line. Perhaps they didn’t like the show enough to sit and read the credits afterward. But the heart of the message remains: proponents of intelligent design are discriminated against, persecuted, and pressed to the fringes if not pushed out altogether. This movie has simply provided clear evidence and awareness of a trend that has been running powerfully in the undercurrents of American education for decades. This is due to the nature of evolutionary thought as a competing worldview: It will not allow any rivals. This has been known for some time. One lawyer who reviewed Darwin’s legacy wrote, most of higher education is dogmatic and irrationally committed to affirm evolution and to suppress creation science, not on the basis of scientific evidence, but in disregard of that evidence.2 The atheists now feel their worldview slipping. They have nothing to fight with except control of schools and maintaining ridicule of God. Any respectable theory that may allow room for God—and anyone who entertains such as theory—must be wiped from human consciousness, and bereft of influence. Scores of examples could be cited. The movie gives some prominent cases. There are hundreds more.3 1 http://www.uncommondescent.com/legal/expelled-plagiarizing-harvard/ 2 Wendell R. Bird quoted in John Ankerberg and John Weldon, Darwin’s Leap of Faith: Exposing the False Religion of Evolution (Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 1998), 101. 3 Quoted in Ankerberg and Weldon, Darwin’s Leap of Faith, 101–109. |
| Being disarmed and helpless in the area of actual arguments, the critics of Expelled have nothing to fight with but insults. PZ Meyers, in one short article, tars intelligent design and its followers with a litany of disgust: “dimwits,” “awesomely stupid,” “clueless creationists,” “worse than inane.”1 But once Meyers runs out of name-calling ammo, he has nothing to drop but an incredibly poor argument, claiming to uncover a “Simple Falsehood at the Heart of Expelled.” Like many of his fellow atheists and evolutionists, he is angry that Expelled makes a clear and explicit link between Darwinism and Hitler’s Nazi atrocities. The “simple falsehood” he alleges to refute this well-known connection is that since farmers had used selective breeding for decades, then the Nazi’s didn’t need Darwin for the idea. All Darwin did, according to Meyers, was to discover that nature, too, did her own selection in the environment. Brilliant! One might ask PZ, however, that if Hitler was merely imitating the farmers, then why exactly have countless historians and academics—in addition to “clueless creationists”—traced Hitler’s infernal ideas back to Darwin? First, we should note that while the Darwin-Hitler relationship makes up an important part of the pro-freedom message of Expelled, it is hardly the “heart” of the movie as PZ states. Rather, the heart of the movie is about academic freedom, centering on those scholars who have suffered persecution for merely talking about ID. This is why the movie is titled Expelled, and not something like, say, Holocaust. PZ is simply upset about the movie, and thinks he has a good retort. The answer, however, to the retort—which is even more obvious and simple than PZ claims his own insight to have been—is that in Darwin, Hitler thought he had a compelling scientific justification for treating people like an animals. Cull the weak, sterilize the average, breed the select, and burn the refuse. He did this to people—something that centuries of farmers couldn’t bring themselves to do, even with their apparently “dangerous” farming techniques. The world, after all, was not at war because Hitler culled six million chickens or gassed six million sheep. Farming practices aside, the Nazi’s applied “natural selection” to people because Darwin’s own words gave them the idea. One infamous passage reads, “With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.”2 Dawkins has written a long tedious letter trying to disavow the relation between Darwin and Hitler, but no matter how much he spins the story—“Hitler just misunderstood!” “Eugenics is just bad Darwinism!”—the simple plain facts are irrefutable. Hitler had the scientific theory to stand behind his actions. You can’t question the science! Like PZ, Dawkins, and others, Hitler apparently believed you can’t go against Darwin’s theory. Following Darwin, Hitler said, “I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.”3 Conclusion The message of Expelled must be taken seriously. It is fun to laugh at the liberals and atheists who have no defense against their own vices. It is fun to watch them squirm and speak bold nonsense with a straight face. But the basic message of Expelled is about academic freedom and freedom in general. We seriously need to beware when anything is forced on us under the imperative hand of “science.” We must hold such claims to the highest level of scrutiny and skepticism. Tyranny always comes in such guises as necessity, public good, and science. Witness such guieses in the weekly indoctrinations of the Soviet workers in Russian factories during Communism. In contrasting the “scientific” tyrannies of modern times with the stereotypical middle ages, scholar Robert Nisbet concluded, Anyone who believes that inquisitions went out with the triumph of secularism over religion has not paid attention to the records of foundations, federal research agencies, professional societies, and academic institutes and departments. . . . It was twentieth century science, not theology, that sought to prevent by every possible means the publication in the 1950s of Velikovsky’s Worlds in Collision. The Church did not go that far with Galileo.4 Expelled is exposing the same envious and dishonest forces continuing at work today—prejudice against the intelligent design scientists, persecution of believers, and the revolting history of evolutionary theory. Seeing the affect it is having in just a few days, I can’t wait until it reaches millions, and then goes to DVD, and reaches millions more, for years. Maybe then our atheist bullies will silence themselves, or better yet, cease their assault on intelligence altogether and convert. 1 http://richarddawkins.net/article,2456,The-simple-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-Expelled,PZ-Myers-Pharyngula 2 Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man, Chapter 5. (I have purposefully copied this text from the online edition found at infidels.org—an atheist website—in order to illustrate that evolutionists like PZ refuse to find the truth even when the original sources are right in front of them. 3 Quoted in Ankerberg and Weldon, Darwin’s Leap of Faith, 33. 4 Robert Nisbet, Prejudices: A Philosophical Dictionary (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1982) 195–196. See Henry H. Bauer, Beyond Velikovsky: The History of a Public Controversy (Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1984) and Velikovsky Reconsidered (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, 1976). |
Ben Stein's Expelled Has Strong Opening Weekend by Jennifer Mesko, managing editor, Citizen Magazine of Focus on the Family Documentary challenges evolution's dominance in the classroom. Ben Stein's new documentary, Expelled, which chronicles the censorship of teachers, professors and students who question the theory of Darwinian evolution, performed well at the box office over the weekend. It's a message that garnered Dr. James Dobson's endorsement and seems to resonate with Americans. The documentary, which opened Friday at 1,000 theaters nationwide, brought in $3.2 million. It finished fifth overall in per-theater earnings, according to Box Office Mojo. Tom Neven, editorial director for Youth Outreach at Focus on the Family, called it a "very good showing." "It shows that thousands of Americans decided to ignore the propaganda being put forth by those who would wish to expel Expelled from theaters," he said. "The campaign of half-truths and smear tactics actually caused many to want to see for themselves what the fuss was about, and they came out of theaters seeing that Ben Stein makes a good case — both on the screen and in his response to those who would censor him." Mark Mathis, executive producer of the movie, said the strong showing should get Hollywood's attention. "There's a lot of garbage out there in our theaters," he told OneNewsNow. "And when investors stick their necks out and risk their hard-earned money to see a movie like this produced, they're taking a big risk — and they're hoping that people will honor that and go see it." FOR MORE INFORMATION Listen as Dr. Dobson talks with Ben Stein. (no longer on the web it seems, but I have it in my computer. Gary) http://resources.family.org/product/radio+broadcasts/all/b01514d+exposing+the+truth+in+the+evolution+debate.do? Visit the Expelled Web site. Read CitizenLink's interview with Ben Stein. JOIN THE CONVERSATION Have you seen the movie or do you want to see it? Join our online forum. Here is the citizen link interview with Ben Stein, in Aprilmentioned above: by Jennifer Mesko, managing editor Actor-turned-filmmaker rolls out a little documentary taking on Big Science and Darwinism. Anyone who’s heard the phrase, “Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?” will recognize Ben Stein: He spoke the catchphrase in the 1986 movie Ferris Bueller’s Day Off. It’s a story of a rebellious teen who takes yet another day off from school. As Stein explained to CitizenLink, his new movie, Expelled, also deals with rebellion. Only this time, he’s encouraging students to rebel — against Big Science, which crowned Darwin as king and won’t allow freedom of speech into the classroom. The movie opens nationwide April 18. 1. Why do so many people remember your line 22 years after Ferris Bueller’s Day Off? It calls to mind so many situations where you’re trying to get someone’s attention, and you just can’t get his attention. That’s so annoying and maddening. I think people realize my phrase is the sort of ultimate phrase you say in frustration. That seemed like a natural phrase to use in this movie, Expelled, when we’re trying to get people’s attention. 2. You’ve said the consequences of Darwinism have been “terrifying and horrible.” Is that why you signed on to this project? Darwinism had led to academic suppression. Anyone who questioned the orthodoxy of Darwinism was losing his job, getting harassed, losing his grants, losing his office, her office. This was not supposed to happen in a country based upon freedom of speech. I was very worried about that. Darwinism got rolling in the 19th century, but no one would have dreamed that the Nazis would “decode” them to mean survival of the fittest, using industrial technology to eliminate people they deemed to be just specks of mud. If I wipe some mud off my car windshield, who cares? Similarly, the Nazis thought, “If I wipe some Jews off the windshield of history, who cares? They’re just specks of mud.” 3. What do you hope people, specifically teens, will do after watching Expelled? If you’re taught something, and asked to take it on faith, in your science class, then you should say, “Sir, you’re asking me to take it on faith. And if we’re talking about things that are taken on faith, then could we also talk about Intelligent Design, which is my faith?” No science teacher can tell a student how life originated on this earth, or anywhere. No science teacher can tell anyone for sure where matter originated. A biology teacher cannot offer any evidence of a single, distinct species that has evolved under observation. You can clearly see the effects of gravity. Where is the observed proof of Darwinism? 4. Do you think this film will help restore freedom of speech in the classroom? I think this will open the eyes of a number of people, of parents and children, about how they’re being taught things that cannot be seen. Little by little, that may shake some foundations. What we eventually want is a judge who would say, “I don’t see why this couldn’t be taught in the classroom, at least as a hypothesis.” At that point, it’s Katy bar the door. 5. What would you like to say to Darwin? "You are a wealthy man, you married a wealthy woman, why don’t you just live quietly out in the countryside and not torture us with your half-baked suppositions, which have caused so much misery?" I want to emphasize, Darwin was not like the crazed neo-Darwinists of today. Darwin believed in the freedom of inquiry. He encouraged there to be further study and debate. He said that in writing before he died. Neo-Darwinists ask us to believe in things not seen. We’re not supposed to have an established religion in America, but we do, and it’s called Darwinism. DR. 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